What Trump’s reported sh*thole comment tells us about WH politics, shifting immigration policy and the state of the media

Jan 12, 2018

President Trump Holds News Conference With Prime Minister Solberg Of Norway

U.S. President Donald Trump walks up to speak to the media with Prime Minister Erna Solberg of Norway in the East Room at the White House, on January 10, 2018 in Washington, DC.; Credit: Mark Wilson/Getty Images


Decoding Trump’s reported use of a vulgarity in describing countries including Haiti and El Salvador.

It’s more than just a word, but points to bigger issues inside and outside the White House. Larry speaks with NPR’s Ron Elving and our panel of guests about Trump’s use of the word, and what it reflects politically and what it means for the immigration debate today.


Ron Elving,  senior editor and correspondent on the Washington Desk for NPR News

Philip Wolgin, managing director for Immigration Policy at the Center for American Progress; he tweets @pwolgin

Andrew Arthur, resident Fellow in Law and Policy at the Center for Immigration Studies

Jane Kirtley, professor of media ethics and law at the School of Journalism and Mass Communication at the University of Minnesota

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